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We need to decide whether to use the new achievement system for score keeping or if we should leave it as it is.

Notes

  • Achievements are a good way to motivate users to get more involved.
  • The score resets for everybody, so everyone starts with 0 points, no matter how many edits they've done in the past.
  • "Achievement boosting" will happen, users who make useless edits to get achievements will be warned after the first offence, blocked after the second offence and finally banned if they persist.
  • Badges are part of one of 3 classes, each with a specific point count. Bronze badges are worth 10 points, Silver badges are worth 50 points, and Gold badges are worth 100 points. When you get one of these badges, you get the corresponding points.
  • Every achievement can be customized, so we can make them "South Park" themed.
    • Administrators can customize the names and pictures of the achievement badges at Special:AchievementsCustomize
      • You can upload any .jpg or .png picture, and your picture will automatically fit inside the frame.
      • The framing works best when your picture is square, and when the most important part of the picture is right in the middle.
      • You can use rectangular pictures, but you might find that a bit gets cropped out by the frame.
      • If you do not like the picture that you have chosen, click "Revert to default" to go back to the original graphic.
  • There is also a fourth class, namely "Platinum badges". These are worth 250 points and are given out on special occasions by Wikia Staff and Helpers. These badges may have a separate description, name and image which will be fit into a square frame. One may also choose if the badge does or does not appear in the recent badges list.

To edit Platinum badges, visit Special:Platinum on the wiki.

Badge names

Here's a list of all (I think) the achievements which are customizable. We need to come up with names and images to fit them.

Not in track:

  • {{{Welcome to South Park}}} - for joining the wiki (bronze)
  • {{{Don't Get Sucked Into This}}} - editing your user page for the first time (bronze)
  • {{{You Have 1 Friend}}} - leaving someone a message on their talk page (bronze)

Edit track:

  1. {{{Poor as a McCormick}}} - 1 mainspace edit (bronze)


  1. {{{Amateur Editor}}} - 5 edits (bronze)
  1. {{{Badass Editing Skills}}} - 10 edits (bronze)
  1. {{{Edit-san}}} - 25 edits (silver)
  1. {{{Keep Fighting}}} - 50 edits (silver)
  1. {{{The No Life Badge}}} - 100 edits (silver)
  1. {{{High on Editing}}} - 250 edits (gold)
  1. {{{Wealthy as a Black}}} - 500 edits (gold)

Blog comment track:

  1. {{{Shitty Blogger}}} - writing a comment on 3 different blog posts (bronze)
  1. {{{Professor Blogger}}} - writing a comment on 10 different blog posts (silver)

Wiki love track:

  1. {{{Computer Nerd}}} - Contribute to the wiki every day for 5 days in a row (silver)
  1. {{{Something Wikia Comes This Way}}} - 14 days (gold)
  1. {{{Major Noobage}}} - 30 days (gold)
  1. {{{Super Cereal Awsome}}} - 60 days (gold)
  1. {{{The Golden Halo}}} - 100 days (gold)
  1. {{{Congratulations! You Are a Fag!}}} - 200 days (gold)

1. {{{Myrrh Badge}}} - 365 days (platinum)

Blog post track:

  1. {{{The Bronze Badge of Gayness}}} - writing 1 blog post (bronze)
  1. {{{Blog Poo}}} - 5 posts (silver)
  1. {{{The Blog Whisperer}}} - 10 posts (silver)
  1. {{{Blog Dawg's Bitch}}} - 25 posts (silver)
  1. {{{Blog Dawg}}} - 50 posts (silver)

Categories track:

  1. {{{Firth Timer}}} - adding 1 article page to a category (bronze)
  1. {{{Bronzie Fonzie}}} - 5 pages (bronze)
  1. {{{Oh My Goth Badge}}} - 10 pages (bronze)
  1. {{{Super Best Badge}}} - 25 pages (silver)
  1. {{{Category CATeORGY}}} - 50 pages (silver)
  1. {{{C-c-category M-master}}} - 100 pages (silver)
  1. {{{The Jew Gold Badge}}} - 250 pages (gold)

Pictures track:

  1. {{{Nice First Picture!}}} - adding 1 picture to an article (bronze)
  1. {{{Picture This}}} - 5 pictures (bronze)
  1. {{{Crappy Images}}} - 10 pictures (bronze)
  1. {{{Amatuer Photographer}}} - 25 pictures (silver)
  1. {{{Handyman}}} - 50 pictures (silver)
  1. {{{Deadly Photographer}}} - 100 pictures (silver)
  1. {{{Expert Photographer}}} - 250 pictures (gold)
  1. {{{Master of Pictures}}} - 500 pictures (gold)

FAQ's

  • I made 8,000 edits before we added Achievements. Can I start out with bonus points?
    • Nope, the game starts when the feature is turned on. As an experienced editor, it shouldn't take you long to dominate the leaderboard!
  • One of the contributors on my wiki is making stupid edits and doesn't deserve to earn a badge for them. Can I take their badges away?
    • Once a badge is awarded, it can't be taken away. If someone is making silly edits just to get badges, then you can leave them a message on their talk page about it. As always, it's best to assume good faith -- they may not realize that they're doing anything wrong. Talking to them usually helps! If someone is vandalizing the wiki and they won't respond to messages, then banning them from the wiki will remove their badges and take them off the leaderboard.

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Decision

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Pro

  • I believe we should have an achievement system. Many people need to be more involved in the wiki. However, we should mention something about useless edits on the achievement system page. Many people do not know about the rules of editing articles. I've seen many people put random things, false things, an opinions on them. Other than that, I believe the system should be used for score keeping. Toadstool 21:31, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
P.S.-I have a few ideas for badges. If we just photoshop them by taking out the background and add the badge outline, they might work! Here are the pics...
  • I'd like to see how many achievments I could earn and I think it would be really good for this wiki Sonic Look&#039;s Up CrampsyTalk Mario Look&#039;s Up 16:53, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
  • I think that the system would work well on this wiki (I would newer want it on the Fallout wiki), and if there's any achievement boosters out there then "it's three strikes and you're out".
But I'm a little concerned about some inactive editors who wan't get a say in this matter, but when they come back, I'm sure they'll be a little ticked-off about their contributions disappearing. It's a little unfair, but "progress" is the way to go. --Anon talk 00:38, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
  • I also want to point out that if we say "three strikes and your out," we need to be careful what we are talking about. Some people put false information, but it is an honest mistake. For example; on the Kenny's Dead page, the thing said Mr. McCormick asked Kenny to bring home $1,000 but the article said $10,000. We should let these small mistakes slide. I'm talking about the big ones like "Butters cousin is Linda Stotch. He is gay cuz he likes Tom Pusslicker." This reminds me, people need to use better grammar when editing or creating articles. Toadstool 01:35, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
We will only use "three strikes and you're out" against obvious "achievement boosters" (i.e, adding an unneeded space to an article just to get achievements, adding the South Park category to every single article or creating meaningless blogs.) Honest mistakes will be dismissed as such.--Anon talk 21:10, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
I like the idea somewhat, but I'm not too active here anymore. I say a good time to install it would be closer to the season premiere, when there'll be more traffic and more edits. Between seasons, there's rarely new information coming about or anything, so for a few months everyone'll just have 0s anyway. I also think the system should be simplified a bit perhaps. Oh, and I agree with Toadstool about minor errors being okay. --JVM~ 04:34, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
  • I like this idea it will be a great way to get more people involved though some achievements seem completely unreasonable such as the contribute every day for a year??? I think it would be nice if our current edit count would add at least some points to the starting total that way all the previous edits, pictures, and posts users have made are not lost and obsolete this would be a great alternative to automatically recieving the badges that you know you've done the achievments for before the system began and would be a nice little bonus for people with edits in the thousands. Please consider it! Thanks! SPfan333 19:49, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
  • It is OK for me, but i have a question. The edits now that you have made before this, is that goes away or set in points? By the way i think we should make an contributions list if this goes in, for people who dont know about this. Or we should make an combination of this. And i saw that from the best users (up left of the page) has not 5, but 20. Toadstool maybe i can help with photoshopping! Here You go! Thangthang15 13:57, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

EricCartmanGold

The current edit count will still be visible next to your username. The big edit count will be replaced by the new score system. Special:Listusers will still list all the users and their edit counts. --Anon talk 21:10, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to be offline again for about 10 days starting this Sunday. So should we extend the poll until about August 24 (so more people could vote) or should I contact wikia right now and ask them to activate the achievements right now? --Anon talk 18:28, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

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The voting is now close so I'm going to contact wikia and ask them to activate the achievements. --Anon talk 03:23, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

daNASCAT activated the achievements for us, he even went a step further and filled out all the custom names for us. Now all we need to do is to get images for all the badges, I starting doing those but this is really problematic since most pictures need to be edited, they need to be fairly small square with the most important part right in the middle, so this may take a long time to finish. --Anon talk 18:30, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

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